are the nominations the president's made for his cabinet. you know, people may have differences with chuck hagel on this issue or that issue. but the guy is like jack armstrong all american. i mean he, you know, he was a war hero. he's lived an exemplary wife. he was a fine senator, highly respected. and he's the president's choice for secretary of defense. >> rose: why is he the president's choice? is it part-- mea is ts president in making the choices he has to make choosing people that he feels really good about, jack lew, john kerry o beyond their abilities, but also because there is some personal relationship there makes him say for the next four years, i really want to accomplish big things, i want people who i really know well, like well, who i believe are where i am? >> well, there's no doubt that he has confidence in them, that he feels,-- that he feels a connection with them, that he feels that they will faithfully execu-- . >> rose: would he have preferred ssz an rice to john kerry. >> susan rice say great friend of mine. and i think a spectacular public servant. you have probably spe